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Post by trapperpaul on Sept 16, 2009 13:39:18 GMT -7
My first attempt, pretty pleased. Thanks to those on this forum for sharing Ideas. Hoping to use it for greys, cats, and coon. What do you all think. critizism wanted. Thank you, Paul
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Post by grumpyoldman on Sept 16, 2009 13:49:28 GMT -7
I don't think that is right, so why don't you ship it out to me, at your cost of coarse, and I will test it this fall and winter and then send you a complete written report of how it did.
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Post by grumpyoldman on Sept 16, 2009 14:18:41 GMT -7
His pan is fine if it was closer to the door the animal would not be in far enough. Don't know about the mesh on the pan but it might not hurt to do that.
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Post by trapperpaul on Sept 16, 2009 15:30:31 GMT -7
I thought of the pan position myself after it was done. will move it back on the next one. Hey grumpy, when that door falls and hits the critter in the back side, he will move forward first. Then it is too late to back up. Just my theory.
I figured a handful of leaves or some such on the pan. Cover the entire bottom with debris. They walk in the woods or where ever and that type of junk all day long.
I appreciate the comments and the pats on the back. Paul
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Post by trapperpaul on Sept 16, 2009 15:32:25 GMT -7
10 x 18 x 36 help you judge things a bit.
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Post by grumpyoldman on Sept 16, 2009 16:08:22 GMT -7
Actually I think it looks good , if the door hits him on the back and he isn't in all the way , maybe he would spin around and out . Don't know , but I think it looks like it is alright to me.
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Post by trapperpaul on Sept 16, 2009 18:38:44 GMT -7
Thanks G.O.M.
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Post by JB Outdoors on Sept 16, 2009 20:15:05 GMT -7
Your trap looks good.
I am guessing the average fox/bobcat span between front & back legs to be 16"? It seems that anything beyond that for the start of the pan would be extra. Just my opinion, not a master trap builder.
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Post by billcat on Sept 28, 2009 10:29:18 GMT -7
The one thing I can see that needs changing is the pan pivot point. Pivoting at the entry end makes the first step on the pan in a dead spot. Put the pivot at the back and the first step shuts the gate. I've added legs to the back of the pan to move the pivot point 3" farther back than the pan. The whole pan is alive, so a step anywhere is going to close the gate. I measured a big tom last winter; from the root of the tail to even with the front foot is right at 18". That is where I'd put the entry edge of the pan. Figure they will be another inch or two into the trap, when stepping on the pan. Even if they are not quite far enough in, the door whacking them on the butt, should make them jump forward.
Bill
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Post by michaelobrien on Sept 28, 2009 17:59:33 GMT -7
Do you really think you are going to get them to climb up on the picnic table?
Looks great!
michael
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Post by trapperpaul on Sept 29, 2009 6:27:47 GMT -7
We had our first annual state Fur Harvesters convention last weekend and I had that cage and a double door one that I made. Robert Waddell was there and he gave me a lot of suggestions on some changes that would improve them. I am building one 12 x 14 x 36 for coon. I am incorporating his changes into this trap and probably will revamp the ones that I already made.
thanks to all for your input. Paul
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Post by dirtholeman on Sept 30, 2009 7:06:29 GMT -7
I think it looks great, been thinking of a first attempt myself.
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Post by k m on Oct 7, 2009 5:21:53 GMT -7
looks like a schroeder cage mimic to me...
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Post by furhvstr on Oct 7, 2009 10:50:21 GMT -7
Gimmie a break.
You think John invented the cage trap?
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Post by Adapter on Oct 11, 2009 9:37:24 GMT -7
lol........ John did not invent the cage trap...BUT he does make some of the BEST built cages available.............
You guys also make good cages because of the light weight design,,,, But not even close to the "Longevity" Johns cages will provide.......
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